Vol 214, Issue 8: 3 May 2021. Dr Sandro Demaio is CEO of VicHealth. He discusses pathways to a stronger, more equitable health care system for all Australians by 2030, to accompany VicHealth's MJA Supplement and his own MJA editorial, at https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/214/8/health-all-2030-within-our-grasp-we-must-act-now. With MJA news and online editor, Cate Swannell. 29 mins, 0 secs.