Vol 214, Issue 5: 15 March 2021: Dr Talila Milroy is a GP and academic registrar at the University of Western Australia. Associate Professor Lilon Bandler is Senior Research Fellow with the Leaders in Indigenous Medical Education Network at the University of Melbourne. They talk about Indigenous health, Closing the Gap and Medicare reform, to accompany their editorial at https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/214/5/closing-gap-where-now. With MJA news and online editor Cate Swannell. 22 mins, 24 secs.